That may be the best option for me. Never happy with any soundbar, and not paying a ton of money. Soundbases were cheap enough, sounded good to me, and I liked better then soundbars. This soundbar, cost at least $300. I may have had a soundbase that cost about that much, but it died, and now they apparently don’t make them.
My ZVOX soundbase might have been cheaper, but the monitor lives on it, and I might want to use it with computer. ZVOX only has sounddbars now.
Well, I found some powered speakers with a remote for $150, and to convert optical to RCA, is $30. At least those prices in town, assuming Best Buy has it.
A soundbar in town, is going to likely cost $150 at least. If I want any chance of me liking it.
Edifier - R1280T Powered Bookshelf Speakers/Computer Speakers/Studio Monitor Speakers, 2.0 Active Near Field Monitors 42 Watts RMS - Brown those are the speakers, I assume IR for the remote, which means, I can use my universal remote as well. Don’t need a dedicated subwoofer most likely, as it has some bass. Not even sure I got the bass turned down enough on this soundbar for me. I have an issue where the volume isn’t perfect for me. Could be too much bass, when I turn the volume up, even if the bass is turned all the way down. Won’t pay for anything that makes dialogue clearer either, that’s what subtitles are for.
Now if I really do need more bass, I can likely get a cheapo subwoofer and it’ll be fine. But is there something that converts optical to RCA and has a subwoofer output? I guess adding something somewhere might work as well.
The people buying the speakers and all the other crap you need, are most likely spending a lot more money then me. And more then soundbases cost as well. Some speakers are over two grand. Powered speakers, may be the cheapest option, other then a soundbar that might just suck.
And I like how these speakers look better then soundbars anyways. And I don’t have to wait. If Best Buy has the speakers. Somebody else may have something to convert the optical, or not. In that case, I’ll get speakers, and wait for optical thing. Or you know, find a seller with those speakers and optical thing. One seller is easier. And no thanks to Amazon.
And Crutchfield is likely out of my price range, unless I want a soundbar, that I might not like.
Also, no Bluetooth, is a bonus to me. Don’t have to worry about it letting somebody connect using Bluetooth while on a different input watching TV. Cause if it has Bluetooth, I then have to look at manual to see what it says about the Bluetooth, not enough info, and I won’t buy it. If it sounds like it can’t do that, then it might be fine.
On the site for those speakers, FAQ says mainly designed as computer speakers. Why? They’re expensive, and should be better then a soundbar for me. Don’t want the crap behind my chair either that this soundbar has. What do you need surround for, if you don’t even want the volume up that loud? And you live in an apartment?
And it’s IR, looked in manual, don’t search for ir in manual though, just go down to where it says everything is. But if you must search, search for infrared. Got to search for part of what ir stands for, if you search for ir. No Bluetooth, so ir is most likely. RF or whatever, makes no sense for speakers, but nothing makes sense, except for these speakers.
Speakers sold out on B&H, they were only $130. Might have a better optical to RCA converter too, and then if that’s only $30 as well, $10 more then just speakers in town. And you don’t need to pay for fast shipping from them, they just give you fast shipping for lots of stuff. Probably not everything. They had some wood ones for $150, sold out too though, bummer. Won’t pay $150 for white ones, when I like black ones better, and they had them for $130. Might as well buy black ones at Best Buy if they have them for $150 in that case.
Looks like I need to look for active bookshelf speakers. And then find some with a remote. Passive may be better, but for who? Not me most likely. Are soundbases “passive”? Well, they might just be soundbases, with optical or whatever. Not spending the money on passive speakers myself.
My TV does PCM, so don’t even need to convert digital. Pretty sure my TV has optical, I should check. But there’s a way to hook it up most likely without optical. And most TVs have optical and/or RCA. TV might even have RCA for all I know. Might need an optical cable though. Also older TVs likely have optical or RCA at least.
Looks like in town might be as cheap or cheaper then B&H.
Those speakers under $100 refurbished on eBay. Shipping might be slow though.
Well, wasn’t on the right manufacture site as well. Was wondering if they sold them directly. The site I found on the other site, redirects to (edifier-online.com)[https://edifier-online.com/]
$130 on their site for wood ones. Or white ones I think. And more speakers to look at. If shipping is fast enough, whatever that is, then I suppose ordering directly from them is fine. Just have to find a converter, either online or in town. The shipping should say about the same time as the speaker shipping. If they both say two days, then worth the wait, even if it all takes three days. But if you order something on eBay and directly from them, you might get speakers and then a week later get the other thing you need.
$120 refurbished, I like refurbished anyways, might as well save another $10 if I buy online. Might be the cheapest ones, without Bluetooth. Not paying more for Bluetooth. And they have a cable for $15 that might work for connecting TV. So if they ship both together in the same box, you get it at the same time. You only got to wait one week or whatever.
But it it regular or mini? Cause the speakers might only be mini, and I can’t click the mini one.
Probably the wrong cable, cause that speaker seems to only have RCA. Do they got an adapter? Or better RCA to optical?
RCA to RCA and RCA to 3.5mm, don’t know if TV has 3.5mm either.
Do they have an all in one speaker? Either with optical, or comes with everything like the optical to that other plug for $15. If it has optical, then it should come with optical cable. And depends how much it costs. Otherwise, do it the hard way.
Home Theater speakers too expensive from them.
Hmm, passive speakers for under $90. But then I need something likely to connect them and so on.
D12 Integrated Stereo Speaker sort of looks like a soundbar, but smaller then most. Line out, more speakers or subwoofer with that. So sort of better then the other ones anyways. Cost $180 though.
I need to talk to somebody that likely knows more about speakers, especially this kind of speakers. Cause they might know a cheaper brand, that’ll be just fine for me. Or a better brand that costs the same. Or where to go in town. Better could mean anything to anybody though, but if they know more, might as well be better for me too. And I’m talking about the more technical part as well. I’m not even sure the best way to get what I want. I just know, not a fucking soundbar. I don’t like soundbars.
Well, might need the mini cable for that thing, as the regular isn’t 3.5mm. Will any optical to 3.5mm cable work? Cause the mini cable I can’t click. Also, you might need a converter anyways. Don’t even know what their mini cable is, cause I can’t click it.
Doesn’t need to be big, cause I don’t need it loud. Isn’t bigger louder? Well, that’s what the ladies scream.
Well, they have some Bluetooth speakers for $100, not sure about the remote. Less watts. What do the watts mean for speakers? No idea. Louder? Well, then less watts might be fine, but I need a remote. And don’t even need Bluetooth.
No remote, too lazy to stand up as well.
Well, I think I’ll probably end up ordering some or all the stuff online. Cause I doubt anywhere in town, has enough shit to look at anyways. Best Buy might not have speakers or even the converter. Though if I really think I’ll need the converter and go there, then I’ll probably get it. But I should just find something online, that isn’t Insignia. Their HD docks work great, but I’m not sure they know much about audio. Also need to figure out if I can just get a optical to 3.5mm cable or RCA. The TV has PCM, in fact it’s set like that.
Hmm $144 for white, or $180 for wood. Not a big fan of the white one, but might be worth buying anyways. The $144 is refurbished. And it has a remote, almost forgot to check. But still might sell out before I can order it anyways. Still got to talk to somebody that knows more. Might just need to say what I want, and they’ll know what is the cheapest option.
Two speakers, maybe a subwoofer, and for the TV. No fucking soundbar.
Well, even if my sister can’t reinstall Windows, if whatever happened, happens again, she said she didn’t care about data. Doing a loop and not booting. Needed to see if it was a hardware problem, doesn’t appear to be. It’ll be easier for me now. Especially if the recovery partition gets corrupted, and the drive is fine.
She might need it fixed sooner next time, like same day. And if the drive dies, and it’s soldered, well, I can’t fix that easily. Might cost somebody a lot of money. And no PCs aren’t better then Macs, there’s plenty of PCs with soldered shit. If all I want is USB 4.0 and maybe AMD, not that matters anymore, but I may want more RAM, I should be able to get a cheap laptop with USB 4.0 and upgrade the RAM if I ever decide to. Makes no sense that AMD and USB 4.0 is so damn expensive. Well, maybe not if you get it soldered.
But don’t need USB 4.0 anyways. Need open source firmware. Most likely, it’ll play retro games, good enough for me. No computer is fine as well. Also, if I can’t just buy the damn game, put it in system and play, then no thanks. Not relying on the internet for entertainment anymore either.
Hmm might have had a optical to RCA thing, no idea though. Too lazy to look. Probably gone anyways.
They make an all in one cable, probably gets power from USB to convert the digital to analog. That might look worse then the little box though. And the cables sticking out of Uranus.
They do make a DAC with a remote control and Bluetooth. Then I don’t need speakers with a remote maybe. Turn the speakers up all the way I guess. Then turn the volume way down on the other thing. What about passive speakers? They might have no volume control on them.
Is Rockville any good? $60, so more then Insignia. But looks like it might do more crap. It’s got a volume control too. Well, Crutchfield doesn’t have that model, do they have anything from that brand? They might only have audiophile crap, and a soundbase sounds good to me, so I don’t need anything on their site possibly then.
Need to look at those cheap passive speakers, I assume you get two, it says speakers. On Crutchfield, it says each or pair for stuff.
Passive speakers with an active sound profile, whatever that means.
Speaker wire only, didn’t think it’d have RCA or optical anyways. But do they have just an amp that converts optical and has a remote? Cause a full blown receiver, well I’d have to find a cheap one, as I see no point for 2 speakers.
Pyle doesn’t seem like a very good brand. But they probably have something cheap enough that’ll work. Fosi might be better, but can I buy not on eBay or Amazon?
Somebody on Reddit may have mentioned Fosi, and they sure got opinions on Reddit.
Fosi can be bought from them, assuming I’m on their site. But do they ship from the US?
Well, that thing looks better, but it’s $85. Only RCA. So I’d need speakers with RCA. But probably way better then the $30 Insignia thing. And has sub out, so I could get the first speakers I found for $120 refurbished.
And also, all it does is decode. So speakers with speaker wire, how are you going to control the volume with an amp? How much is an amp with a remote? Well, they got amps on their site. Do they got a decoder and amp built in one? Or is that a “receiver”?
You might have to pay $150 for anything with a remote that is some kind of amp from them though.
$80 will get you Bluetooth, but no IR.
So maybe the opinion I read is everything more expensive is better. In that case, I need it made in Japan, cause they make good shit there. And also, if it’s not made in Japan, why is it expensive? They might have no refurbished stuff either.
Should look that other brand up. See if it can be bought not on eBay. I might have something from Pyle though, but not sure what it is anymore, forgot. Probably a pre amp. Or something. No remote though pretty sure.
Well, somebody could search for “Rockville reddit”, and then they’ll probably find out they suck, cause it doesn’t cost enough. Well, better off asking somebody I know then Reddit.
This brand has more stuff in my price range. And one is only 2.1 channels. I don’t want Bluetooth though. Cause I don’t want to read the manual before I buy it. Or at all. And no optical on that nice looking sold out on their site one. Hmm $70 + $30 + $120. Need optical converter for $30 or less if you buy it on eBay. Also, if that thing has a remote, then it might have speaker wire outputs. In that case around $80 for speakers, should see if they have those refurbished, so I can pay maybe $45 instead. Pictures don’t work on their site in my browser.
Why is that fancy amp in the receiver section? Don’t think it has a remote, yet it has Bluetooth. You got to go to a different site to find all info, if you use LibreWolf anyways.
What is the reverb site? Might be used stuff, cause it says listing ended. Or new and used stuff, might be like eBay then.
Don’t think that has a remote anyways. Well, they got something for $200, that might be everything you need. But those speakers don’t look as good as the ones I found. Look like cheapo plastic.
All their “receivers” have Bluetooth apparently.
Don’t know nothing about reverb. Should ask about that too. Maybe they’ve heard of it. But if they take PayPal, what can go wrong? Except for shipping out of the US.
Search for dac on that site, and you’ll see how much people spend on audio. A lot of the stuff I saw said used, and some is over a grand. How much did they pay? Over a grand? If it’s really old, it might cost over a grand as well. And might not be a good site to find new stuff on either. Unless you have the model number.
eBay might be the cheapest place, but then you might get to wait the longest to.
If this eBay store is really, direct why is it more on their site? Also, there’s stolen shit on eBay. What’s a sookshelf speaker? Well, could be the direct store, it’s not what I searched for. Let’s see if Fosi has anything with a remote that’ll work with passive speakers. Cause the speakers that aren’t passive, have a remote anyways. Also I should search for the converter thing from this “direct” seller too. Some of the stuff on eBay says refurbished in title, but open box under it. Open box if it works sure, refurbished if it says it is, is more likely to work, if the manufacture refurbished it.
Well they have something for over $140. Or I mean over $150. Now how much is it refurbished by the manufacture? Cause their site didn’t seem to have anything refurbished on it. And you need RCA or XLR on the speakers, or you know convert it. Might as well just try finding the converter decoder thing for less, like refurbished. Cause it looks better then Insignia.
Their site has a refurbished page, I found it by searching for “Fosi Audio refurbished”. You just need to know what menu to look under on their site. Might be the Explore whatever one.
If you don’t need a remote and know you don’t need a subwoofer, they got something for $60 refurbished. It has Bluetooth, but no remote. Also, if using optical, you got to convert to RCA. How do I convert the volume controls on it to IR? Well, you may need to make a robot. Or open it up and modify it.
Hmm wifi and ethernet, might be some way to send audio from a computer to it. But probably not my game consoles. But then I can just buy the $120 speakers, and plug directly into a computer. Does the Atari VCS have 3.5mm or RCA? Cause then I could maybe find something to plug the optical into the Atari VCS. Cause you know, nothing makes sense to do it any way or any other way. They got USB DAC things as well.
If this thing has AirPlay or something, maybe the Apple TV could send audio to it. But what about the consoles? No idea if any of them do any network audio. Probably not, cause it would likely result in latency. Well, it has AUX in, so you know, convert the audio from the TV into it. And then you know, send the audio from the stuff you can send audio from to it. And while you’re at it, get yourself a tin foil hat.
Well, the Apple TV can send audio over Bluetooth, and some or all my consoles can as well. That’ll add latency likely as well. It does AirPlay, and also DLNA, so I can send shit from my phone if I wanted to. But says something about NAS too, so my file storage stuff might be accessible as well. And also, no TV needs to be on to listen to music. But I have headphones.
Might not be refurbished, but says I can get 30% off, can I get 30% off the converter thing and both? Cause now I need both, something for the TV, and something to use speakers without the TV on. And without having to try and fuck around with the Atari VCS without the TV on. And without SSH. And without setting something up, so I can just send shit to it. Or you know, select shit without the TV. Hmm, DLNA, will it be sending from my phone, or just be controlling it? I think controlling, which means that’s better then fucking with the Atari VCS anyways. It’s got it’s own DLNA. No need to install anything.
Doesn’t say anything about the code on the other thing. Now to look at their dongle things. I could just look at my dongle though. That’s for headphones. Might just have to get a cheapo ugly one.
How much is a DLNA thing? Cause the speakers or the other one, might have more then one input. And that’s probably cheaper, and makes more sense, then buying the Fosi thing.
The D12 has AUX and RCA.
The speakers for $120, have dual RCA. Also they look better, cause they’re taller. Don’t some people like taller better? Longer, taller, same thing. They look like regular old speakers as well. Except nice regular old speakers.
Hmm, and DLNA would solve my problems with Kodi as well. And even having to use the Atari VCS. But a dongle with just HDMI, ain’t going to let me play music with the TV off.
Also, Kodi may be working good enough. So just need one with RCA or 3.5mm. Cause I think 3.5mm can be converted to RCA with an adapter. Unless it’s sending the wrong format. Also for video, I may or may not need 4k, depends if I ever want to watch something in 4k. Might as well just use the Atari VCS for that crap, since it does 4k. Need to search “dlna rca”. Also, maybe find it not on eBay first. Then if I can’t find to buy anywhere else, eBay.
That site lists a bunch, that cost way too much. In that case, use the Atari VCS. If it has 3.5mm or something. Cause I might just need to wake it up, and control Kodi from the app, the best part or maybe only good part about Kodi. But now I’m wondering how much DLNA music players are. If they even make any cheap ones. Or maybe DLNA is too expensive.
Seems like DLNA would be better, if you aren’t using Apple, Google, Microsoft.
Why do I need an amp or anything? I just need DLNA.
So Bluetooth is cheaper then DLNA for music? Interesting. Oh right, it needs WiFi or Ethernet to play music. I think everybody wants spyware now, like AirPlay, Google Cast or whatever.
Now to see if I can find the Fosi Audio Q6 Desktop DAC for less. And then I’ll just get the $120 speakers. So hopefully they have enough bass for me. Oh wait, that’s the converter/decoder with sub out. So I can still get a subwoofer, if I ever need one. I’ll buy a cheap used one though if I need one. Now to look for Reddit opinions, to see if anybody recommends something for under $85 for optical to RCA. Probably not. Haha, didn’t even have to click anything, and somebody is recommending something for $100, but that was three years ago.
Might be easier to just spend $205 + tax though. Unless the person I know, knows something more. Like cheaper speakers, cheaper DAC. Cheaper whatever. That isn’t a soundbar.
Oh yeah Monoprice. Just don’t buy on their site. They claim that nobody got my card info from their site. No idea. Not worth the risk. They are on eBay though. Is it cheaper then $85? Cause Insignia might be junk. Reddit mentions something for $60, an old model. Possibly a year ago they posted that. Some old Fosi stuff on eBay too. Just didn’t click any of it yet. Wait Q4 is for headphones, not optical. Well, maybe no old Q6 thing then.
Maybe monoprice doesn’t sell all their stuff on eBay, or I still don’t know what to search for. They got some speakers for $280 with optical inputs and even subwoofer output. Got any cheaper ones with just subwoofer output and optical input? And don’t forget, the remote.
Under $10 for optical to RCA from Monoprice. Why do some cost $85 then? That’s coaxial. Guess I should search optical to analog. Or digital to analog. $22.99, somehow cheaper then Best Buy. Oh wait, Best Buy isn’t very cheap. Might look the same, probably is the same. Sold out from Monoprice, and Newegg wants $40.
Another brand is Fiio. Looks like the Monoprice one. Their site sucks though. Might only be $20 for the Fiio D03K. Might not be a current one though. Now who sells their stuff in the US? Cause I can’t find a list of sellers on their site, cause their site sucks. I found the page on their site, by searching a search engine.
Chinese manufacture, but most stuff is made in China anyways. If it’s not made in Japan, then there’s no point in paying extra. Also, I should have just searched for that brand on B&H. Cause they list them. Too expensive. Sescom looks like Monoprice one as well, and it costs $60 or so on B&H.
R1380DB those should work fine $135 or so refurbished. Damn, sold out refurbished. $170, still better then buying converters and crap. More then one input. Also, if I don’t want to listen to music with headphones, I can use my ZVOX anyways. And if you have issues getting speakers to work right, not sure it’s the speakers fault. Cause they got them to work. Also, what can possibly go wrong? Trying to use Bluetooth? Sounds good to me, cause I don’t want Bluetooth.
Bad tech support? Lots of people do that. And it might be fine, even though it has Bluetooth. Might not always be on from what it looks like. Did all my soundbars do that? Or just the ones with Bluetooth or just one brand? No idea. But the soundbase might have had that problem too. Different brand.
How long is “standard” shipping? Cause I don’t want to pay $20 for faster shipping.
Well, Best Buy has some speakers same brand, optical input for $200. It has an s at the end of the model. Better? No idea. If they actually have them, I don’t have to wait that long at all. So I might just go to Best Buy first.